STAFFORD COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION MINUTES
October 3,2007
The
work session of the Stafford County Planning Commission of Wednesday, October 3,
2007, was called to order at 5:30 p.m. by Chairman William Cook in the Board of
Supervisors Chambers of the County Administrative Center
Members Present:
Cook, Kirby, Pitzel, Mitchell, Carlone, and
Rhodes
Members Absent:
Di Peppe
Staff Present:
Harvey, Judy, Stepowany, Zuraf, Kaminsky, Hamock, and
Gregori
Declarations of Disqualification
None
UNFINISHED
BUSINESS:
1.
Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan – Centreport Gateway – A
proposed amendment to the Land Use Plan map component of the Comprehensive Plan.
The proposed amendment would redesignate Assessor’s Parcel 37-25 from Light
Industrial, Suburban Residential, and Resource Protection land use to Urban
Commercial and Resource Protection land use consisting of 51.25 acres, located
on the west side of Interstate 95 separated in two parts by Centerport Parkway
within the Hartwood Election District. The Urban Commercial designation would
allow development of commercial retail and office uses. (Time Limit:
October 16, 2007)(Deferred to the October 3, 2007 Work Session)
2.
RC2700199; Reclassification – Centreport Gateway - A
proposed reclassification from A-1, Agricultural to B-2, Urban Commercial Zoning
District to allow for the development of a commercial office park to include a
mix of offices, retail commercial uses, and a hotel on Assessor's Parcel 37-25
consisting of 51.25 acres, located on the west side of Interstate 95 separated
in two parts by Centreport Parkway within the Hartwood Election District. The
Comprehensive Plan recommends the property for Light Industrial, Suburban
Residential, and Resource Protection uses. The Light Industrial designation
would allow light industrial, light manufacturing and office uses. The Suburban
Residential use would permit single family residential development at a density
of three (3) dwelling units per acre. See Section 28-35 of the Zoning Ordinance
for a full listing of permitted uses in the B-2 Zoning District. (Time Limit:
September 18, 2007) (Deferred to the October 3, 2007 Work Session)
Mr.
Cook asked that items 1 and 2 be discussed together.
Mr. Harvey
stated there were a number of discussions in reference to Centerport Gateway and
there were new proffers submitted by the applicant. He stated the applicant was
available to go over the changes.
Mr. Cook
stated the applicant met with two of the Planning Commissioners, Ruth Carlone
and Barbara Kirby.
Mrs. Kirby
stated she and Mrs. Carlone met with Mr. Darling and his attorney. She stated
the items discussed referenced the building design so the people in the
community would know what they were getting. She stated six different building
elevations were presented and she and Mrs. Carlone, thought two or three
buildings were of nice quality.
Mrs. Carlone
stated there was information that was delayed from VDOT.
Mr. Cook
stated he thought VDOT was taken care when the entrances were changed.
Debrarae
Karnes, Leming and Healy, stated she spoke with Harry Lee with VDOT in reference
to this proposal which involved two separate entrances. She stated Mr. Lee works
on the technical aspects of site plans, which was ok in concept. She stated the
applicant originally came in seeking access to the project through Centerport Parkway
with two entrances.
Mr. Zuraf
stated the changes in the revised proffers were addressed and corrected.
Mr. Judy
stated on page 6, Regional Transportation Improvements A states “this proffer
subject to the provision of the necessary right of way for the proposed by the
County of
Stafford.” He asked what
happens if the county does not provide Right of Way (ROW).
Ms. Karnes
stated the road would not be built and the applicant cannot build his project.
Mr. Judy
stated he was not sure the County should be responsible for providing ROW, and
stated he did not feel it should be in the proffers as written.
Clark Leming,
Leming and Healy, stated that portion of the proffer was contingent on the
availability of ROW. He stated if there was no ROW, the road could not be built.
He stated he was not sure if this should be a burden on the county, but the ROW
does have to be obtained.
Mr. Judy asked
if Mr. Leming’s client was suggesting the county obtain and pay for the ROW.
Mr. Leming
stated no, if the county was willing to obtain the ROW, then the applicant would
pay for it.
Mr. Judy
stated pay for the condemnation process.
Mr. Leming
stated that was correct.
Ms. Karnes
stated she would make a proffer correction stating it was contingent on the
acquisition of the ROW.
Mr. Leming
stated at the applicant expense.
Mr. Zuraf
stated for clarification, at the end of each statement they would replace “by
the County of
Stafford” with the verbiage
discussed.
Mr. Cook asked
if that would meet Mr. Judy’s approval.
Mr. Judy
stated yes. He stated in section 2A, Maximum Development Density, it states
parking structures are excluded from the calculation of floor area ratio. He
started looking at the Zoning Ordinance in reference to a parking garage, he was
not sure if that could be excluded.
Mr. Leming
stated the garages would be open and multi-level.
Mrs. Carlone
stated based on the Crime Prevention through Environmental Design (CPTED) the
garage should be kept open.
Mr. Kirby
stated if there was going to be an elevator it should be a glass elevator to
allow Deputies to see the occupants.
Mr. Judy asked
whether it should be excluded.
Mr. Leming
stated the applicant was proffering to a stricter standard then the Ordinance
requires and for purposes under the proffer the garage would be excluded. He
asked what the Ordinance requires for floor area ratio.
Mr. Harvey
stated the definition of floor area ratio was “the total floor area of a
building or buildings on a lot divided by gross area of the lot or site.” He
also stated the definition for floor area was the sum of the gross horizontal
areas of each story of all buildings on a site or lot.
Mr. Leming
asked what the floor area ratio was in a B-2 Zoning District.
Mr. Harvey
stated the floor area ratio was 0.4.
Mr. Judy
stated on page 10 the applicant agrees to upgrade and oversize capacity and
construct onsite utilities and off-site utilities as may be necessary and
sufficient to serve, both the subject property and other properties in the
immediate service area, provided the County of Stafford shall facilitate and
approve a pro rata share cost reimbursement plan.
Ms. Karnes
clarified by stating the applicant would construct on-site utilities without a
pro rata agreement. She stated on page 10 the applicant agrees to upgrade and
oversize with a pro rata agreement provided it was subject to approval by the
county. She stated, as she understands, the county cannot approve a pro rata
agreement for something not on the Comprehensive Sewer Plan and this improvement
was not currently shown.
Mrs. Carlone
asked Mr. Zuraf if the requirements for the perennial stream had been met.
Mr. Zuraf
stated staff spoke with the applicant earlier and had mentioned the pond may be
a difficult feature to have because of the permitting requirements. He stated
applicant wanted to keep on the general plan, there was no proffer stating the
pond would be built and he does not think the rezoning approved the location of
the pond. He stated the applicant was aware of the strict process they may need
to go through to have the pond.
Mr. Pitzel
stated as discussed earlier there would be no interconnection across Centreport
parkway, and on page 9 it states they shall include pedestrian connections to
adjoining properties. He asked for a definition of adjoining properties.
Ms. Karnes
stated the properties were adjacent properties and not across the road.
Mr. Pitzel
stated the proffer clearly states there were no crossings going across
Centreport
Parkway. He stated the proffer may need to be
reworded to clearly state the properties are next to each other and not across
the road. He stated on page 4, outdoor flea market came up as a CUP.
Ms. Karnes
stated that would be taken out.
Mrs. Carlone
made a motion to recommend item 1 to full commission to recommend approval to
the Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan. Mrs. Kirby seconded. The motion passed
6-0. (Mr. Di Peppe was absent)
Mrs. Carlone
made a motion to recommend item 2 to full commission to recommend approval of
Reclassification 2700199. Mrs.
Kirby seconded. The motion passed 6-0. (Mr. Di Peppe was absent)
ORDINANCE
COMMITTEE
Planned-Traditional Neighborhood
Development (P-TND) Zoning District.
Mr. Stepowany stated the
Commission discussed the modifications to the Traditional Neighborhood
Development (TND) Zoning District and it was suggested that all corrections be
listed on one document. He discussed the revisions in detail and stated he would
prepare an Ordinance to go to public hearing.
Mr. Cook stated he received
several calls regarding golf courses and asked if golf courses should be allowed
under a Conditional Use Permit (CUP).
Mr. Rhodes agreed.
Mrs. Carlone stated she was
concerned with the water usage with a golf course.
Mrs. Kirby asked what the acreage
was on a golf course.
Mr. Stepowany stated the minimum
acreage would be 150 acres and could include practice tees and driving range as
an accessory use.
Mrs. Carlone did not agree with
having a golf course. She asked if golf courses constitute open space.
Mr. Stepowany stated yes.
Mr. Pitzel stated he would want
to keep the golf course out.
Mrs. Kirby stated she would vote
against the golf course.
Mr. Mitchell stated he would
agree with Mr. Rhodes.
After a brief discussion
concerning golf courses Mrs. Carlone made a motion to remove golf course as a
normal by right use. Mr. Rhodes seconded. The
motion failed 3-3. (Mr. Rhodes, Mr. Mitchell and Mr. Cook opposed) (Mr. Di Peppe
was absent)
Mr. Rhodes made a motion to list
the golf course as a right with a CUP. Mr. Mitchell seconded.
Mr. Pitzel stated an amendment
should state there would be a maximum of 18 holes.
Mr. Rhodes agreed.
Mrs. Carlone stated there would
be a maximum capacity of 18 holes.
The motion passed 4-2. (Mrs.
Carlone and Mrs. Kirby opposed) (Mr. Di Peppe was absent)
Mr. Cook asked Mr. Stepowany to
add golf course with the inclusion of practice tees and driving ranges only
permitted under CUP.
Mr. Stepowany stated the public
facility and water tank was added and green houses and stables would be removed.
He stated telecommunication facility would need a CUP.
Mr. Judy asked which source the
definition for redevelopment came from.
Mr. Stepowany stated it cam from
the Code Administration Dictionary of definitions.
Mrs. Kirby asked why parking lots
were included.
Mr. Stepowany stated waivers
would be needed to have certain activity within a Reservoir Protection Area
(RPA).
Mrs. Carlone stated parking lots
should not be included.
Mr. Stepowany stated this was an
example as a type of activity in the RPA with approval by certain offices.
Mr. Harvey stated parking lots
would be a bad example and would not be permitted except by variance by the
Board of Zoning Appeals. He stated there were strict regulations of what would
be permitted in the RPA.
Mr. Judy asked if those potential
uses would be specified in the Stated and Federal Standards.
Mr. Harvey stated the Chesapeake
Bay Act was a state legislation passed to the locality and the county adopted
the model ordinance and adjusted it to our county. He stated the State looks at
the county to ensure the proper job was being done.
Mr. Judy asked if the potential
uses that could be made in the RPA or any buffer referred to fully described in
State standards.
Mr. Harvey stated the Zoning
Ordinance specifies what activity would be provided in the RPA.
Mr. Judy stated it should be
removed to resolve the issue.
The Commission agreed that
statement should be removed.
Mr. Stepowany discussed the
revisions in table 3.4B and 3.5D.
Mrs. Carlone stated she was
concerned with the building height and residential density.
Mr. Stepowany stated the density
in the Transect Zone had no bearing on the overall density. He stated it
controls the intensity of the development.
Mrs. Kirby mentioned this should
be included in the new Comprehensive plan.
Mr. Stepowany stated the Plan
Development (PD) Zoning District which gives directions and recommendations
within the current Comprehensive Plan which was why there were no revisions.
Mr. Zuraf stated there was a
section of the Comprehensive Plan that refers to Planned Development as well.
Mr. Stepowany stated suburban
residential would be for 3 units or less and urban residential would for any
kind of PD for more than 3 units up to 15 units. He stated the Comprehensive
Plan mentions what would be preferred in a Planned Development.
Mr. Cook stated the Board was
considering Purchase of Development Rights (PDR) and stated there had been
$300,000 allotted.
Mrs. Kirby asked if $300,000
would purchase anything in Stafford.
Mr. Harvey stated there were
grant programs and the County would utilize what we have and move forward.
Mrs. Carlone asked if the County
had applied for any grants yet.
Mr. Harvey stated a letter of
intent had already been submitted to the State and the County would be
interested in pursuing the grant funds.
Mrs. Kirby asked if that would be
advertised.
Mr. Harvey stated the PDR meeting
would be scheduled just like Planning Commission.
Mr. Pitzel stated funeral homes
and dormitory schools were taken out by right but he feels it should be left in,
particularly funeral home.
Mr. Stepowany stated, in his
opinion, funeral homes are mainly a service to local residents.
Mr. Pitzel made motion to restore
by right in T-4, T-5, T-6 and SDC. Mr. Mitchell seconded. The motion passed 4-2.
(Mrs. Carlone and Mrs. Kirby opposed) (Mr. Di Peppe was absent)
Mr. Pitzel made a motion for
dormitory schools to be restored. Mr. Mitchell seconded.
Mrs. Kirby asked for an
explanation why it should be restored.
Mr. Pitzel stated the County
would try to concentrate and if there were schools with a student population and
gave examples of schools.
Mr. Stepowany stated Mary Washington College was looking for an additional
location to have dorms from where students could be bused. He stated there may be a need to have a
dorm in the community.
Mr. Pitzel reiterated what Mr.
Stepowany stated.
Mrs. Kirby stated if that was the
case this should be called just Neighborhood Design versus Traditional
Neighborhood Design.
The motion passed 4-2. (Mrs.
Carlone and Mrs. Kirby opposed) (Mr. Di Peppe was absent)
Mr. Judy stated in Table 3.5,
under number of stories, it stated none for minimum should be one.
Mr. Cook agreed with Mr. Judy.
Mr. Stepowany stated he would
change it to reflect at least one story building.
Mr. Cook asked what the normal
height for a one story with a roof.
Mr. Stepowany deferred to Mr.
Harvey.
Mr. Harvey stated it depended on
the type of construction and the pitch of the roof.
Mr. Rhodes asked if there should
be a maximum height and stated if there was no maximum height then the market
would determine how tall the floors would be.
Mr. Stepowany stated that was
correct.
Mr. Judy stated he was concerned
with the table.
Mr. Cook confirmed that in a T-1
there would be no buildings and in T-2, T-3 and T-4 change the building height
maximum to no higher than 75 feet.
Mrs. Carlone stated there would
have to be a maximum height and felt 75 feet was a bit high.
Mr. Stepowany stated the issue
was the diversity of different types of buildings. He stated this to encourage
changes horizontally and vertically.
Mr. Cook asked if maximum feet
would be 55 more feasible.
Mrs. Carlone stated that at 65
feet Geico and the hospital was now five stories and should really be looked at
to determine the height of the buildings.
Mr. Pitzel stated the stories of
a building would be limited.
Mr. Judy stated at some point in
the future there would be taller building within the County and did want
developers to interpret anything.
Mr. Stepowany stated the limit
would be three stories and the height street ratio requirements.
Mr. Judy reiterated there needed
to be an upward limit.
Mr. Stepowany agreed and would
agree with the Commissions decision.
Mrs. Carlone stated there would
need to be a maximum height.
Mr. Rhodes made a motion to have
a maximum height currently in the T-5, T-6 and SDC carry across for table 3.5F
so there would be some maximum listed. Mr. Mitchell seconded.
Mr. Cook stated the motion would
be to have a 75 feet finished floor level extend back through T-2, T-3, and T-4.
Mr. Pitzel stated he would remind
the Commission that even with the maximum height there would still be a limit on
the number of floors.
The motion passed 4-2. (Mrs.
Carlone and Mrs. Kirby opposed) (Mr. Di Peppe was absent)
Mr. Cook asked for a motion to
carry forward to public hearing with changes to the TND
Mr. Mitchell made a motion to
carry forward to the full board. Mr. Rhodes seconded.
Mr. Cook stated there was a
motion and second to carry recommended changes as outlined by Mr. Stepowany and
modified by the Commission to date forward to the full Commission for approval
and advertisement for changes to the TND.
The motion passed 6-0. (Mr. Di
Peppe was absent)
Mr. Stepowany confirmed the
meeting would be the first meeting in November.
Mr. Cook stated that was correct
and would make a motion at the 7:30 Meeting.
Mr. Harvey requested a
modification to the Ordinance Committee agenda and stated at the October 2, 2007
meeting the Board passed a resolution referring an ordinance amendment to the
Planning Commission to rehear an ordinance previously adopted in 2006 dealing
with the definitions pertaining to industrial schools and vocational schools. He
stated the Board requested the Commission take action and have the item go back
to the Board for their December meeting. He stated staff would request that be
forwarded to public hearing.
Mr. Cook asked if the action
could be taken in the regular meeting. He asked if this would need to be
modified or just re-advertised.
Mr. Judy stated he the Commission
needs to be on the agenda as soon as possible.
Mr. Cook stated he would put on
the agenda tonight.
Mr. Stepowany requested item 2
and 3 be retained in committee until further notice.
Mrs. Carlone asked about a new
Ordinance for reverse frontage.
Mr. Stepowany stated he had
researched and would need to get with Mr. Harvey as to the status. He stated
Ordinance O04-13 on reverse frontage for lots greater than three acres. He
stated this item had been deferred back to Planning Commission from the Board.
Mr. Harvey stated this item was
not an item on the deferred item list and was not likely adopted. He stated the
Planning Commission would need to take action.
Mr. Carlone gave examples of
reverse frontage and why she felt the Ordinance would be needed.
Mr. Cook asked Mr. Stepowany to
prepare this Ordinance to come before the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
With no
further business to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 6:54 PM.